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Funkmaster
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Post subject: Spring Hill Skatepark - update
 Posted: Mar 13, 2006 - 02:18 AM
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Team Geritol
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Many of you may have seen the article in the paper that said the city decided to put a hold on the skatepark for now.
We (Spring Hill Skatepark Committee) have been corresponding with the city to get it sorted out and back on track.
We've had it added to the board meeting tomorrow for discussion.
They said only one bid was received and that it came in about $100,000 over budget. It was from a local company who has no experience in building skateparks...go figure.
They still haven't told us who or how the construction bids were solicited,
or if any of the skatepark companies were involved.
We also need to ask again to see the final construction prints to make sure we were given what we asked for. So far, they have not allowed anyone on the skatepark committee to see the final construction drawings?
I'll post an update after the meeting tomorrow. |
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Posted: Mar 13, 2006 - 05:12 AM
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Team Geritol
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I hope things get worked out for Spring Hill's skatepark.
From what I understand, they have a big housing boom going on there, and that area needs something like a skatepark for all the kids who skateboard, bike (bmx) or inline skate.
I'm surprised they wouldn't want to get it moving since Nissin is relocating employees from California to the area who may have kids who are used to having skateparks. You know how many skateparks are in California, and how kids can be!
It sure would make it a more potentially attractive place to consider if relocating to the Nashville area. |
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Funkmaster
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Posted: Mar 14, 2006 - 11:30 PM
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Team Geritol
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All in all, the meeting went well. The city addressed all of our concerns and reassured us the skatepark will still happen. They even mentioned a possible location change for the site that could even be better than the previous site.
Prior to the meeting, the city engineer requested that we submit a list of specialized skatepark companies we would want to bid on the project. He also reminded us that all bidders must be licensed contractors in the State of Tennessee.
I felt that the most likely contenders for our area were California Skateparks, Grindline, and Team Pain since they are all great builders and have all done work in the south/east region. California Skateparks built the (Wally Hollyday designed) Nashville skatepark and will be building Bowling Green and Knoxville as well.
The city will send out the advertisement to rebid the project to these companies once the bid documents are revised.
We'll keep you posted. |
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Funkmaster
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Posted: Jun 05, 2006 - 08:06 AM
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Team Geritol
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It looks like the park is in limbo once again. 
The city resent the Invitation to Bid for the building of the concrete design, but no skatepark companies bid on it. They then made an announcement in the paper that it was on hold again because one of the local contractors bid $625,000. How could a park half the size of Nashville's cost 1.25 as much?
I got a copy of the bid request from one of the companies (again who didn't submit a bid). According to them, the way it's drafted is almost like they didn't want anybody to bid on it. It included numerous amenities to be included that were not in the original scope of the design or budget.
They also drafted it so the skatepark company would be responsible for all of the common areas that a local contractor would normally be responsible for which dramatically increases the cost.
According to the skatepark company, they could actually build the park within budget based on their recommendations. We were also guided by Site Design Group that a park of our size and scope, would fit our budget.
I forwarded the city these recommendations to help straighten out the project, but they have failed to respond.
To add insult to inury, they have announced a ramp demo (not even a decent company) on the Spring Hill City page and failed to even notify any of the skatepark committee members. After all the time we spent volunteering our time and rearranging our work schedules to attend meetings this is insulting and unethical.
It's like the city wanted to make sure the concrete project failed so they could go the cheap route with modular ramps.
The ramp demo is Sunday June 11th. Click on the link for more info:
http://springhilltn.org/skatedemo.htm
The difference between concrete parks and modular ramps is like the difference between a house and a mobile home and the pros and cons are pretty much parallel for many of the same reasons.
Sure they both serve a function, but given a choice we all know what we'd prefer to have.
Everyone is urged to attend to voice their concerns and hopefully put a stop to this.
Like Sk8geezer said, if anyone is relocating to the area a decent skatepark would be an attractive feature. Nissan is building their new facility in Franklin, and are finishing up their concrete park. I guess they're not too concerned about attracting people to Spring Hill who's families have kids who skate (or bike, or inline).
According to Mayor Purcell, Nashville's concrete skatepark park is their most successful city park to date based on the amount of users for the parks' size and cost.
Brothers in arms, it's time for a Skatepark Jihad! Please help us from taking the wheels off and putting up the skirt on mobile ramps. |
Last edited by Funkmaster on Jun 05, 2006 - 07:20 PM; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Jun 05, 2006 - 06:06 PM
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| Wow, sorry it's going down like this. Let's face it: Spring Hill may be fresh and new, but it's run by the same old crusty sommbitches that it was when John Bell Hood, in a laudinum haze, allowed the Yankee army to march smack past the Army of Tennessee on their way to Franklin and Nashville! Who will be participating in the demo? What you all could do is get some guys that the Spring Hill officials are unfamiliar with, and who act like they don't know the Funkmaster, to ride the ramps, and then start sliding out and slamming, saying things like, "Dang, these slick assed things are a lawsuit waiting to happen" or "These suck! Concrete is way better!" You could even get a jumbo skater to drop in so hard he punches a hole in the ramp, then say, "This never happened to me before with concrete!" Is there anything else we could do to help? |
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Funkmaster
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Posted: Jun 08, 2006 - 12:11 AM
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Team Geritol
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We (the Skatepark Committee) received the following message from a city official concerning the demo and state of the skatepark:
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A skate park company named American Ramp Company is going to be doing a demo skate park in Spring Hill on June 11th from 6pm to 8pm. This event is free to the public and though it is modular ramps, I could not pass up the opportunity to offer this to the public since it is at no cost to them or the city. This event or company has nothing to do with our current skate park project which is still being elaborated on for a solution.
I know the committee is opposed to modular skate parks but could you please pass this along to the rest of them in hopes to help get more people at the event. I feel that if we have a large turnout at this event it will do nothing but help show that our skate park is not only wanted but needed so please pass the word along."
The location has been set for the Spring Hill UAW Local 1853 Parking Lot (Behind FoodLion) on Sunday, June 11th between 6:00 and 8:00 P.M.
Click here for more info: http://springhilltn.org/skatedemo.htm
This does not mean the city is going to get these ramps for sure or abandon our current concrete skatepark project. We are all trying to address this and make it happen. We have a lot of time and money invested in the concrete project, and need to stay focused and see it through.
A show of force will help insure that our voice will be heard. A large turnout at this event will show the city how much this skatepark project is needed and will better help our current, concrete project.
Once the city commits to a skatepark, we will have to live with it for a long time, so we have to make this count.
Please come out to the demo and let as many people know about it as possible. Please let the city know we want a skatepark and that it should be a quality-made concrete skatepark, not the modular ramps.
Thanks for your support. |
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MicMac
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Posted: Jun 08, 2006 - 03:21 AM
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Snake
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Funkmaster wrote:
Please come out to the demo and let as many people know about it as possible. Please let the city know we want a skatepark and that it should be a quality-made concrete skatepark, not the modular ramps.
I agee. Go and tear that junk apart.
Don't forget that there will be a local experienced skatepark builder after the Franklin pool is finished. A local experienced skatepark builder could help reduce the cost of a concrete park. |
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Posted: Jun 08, 2006 - 03:46 AM
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Team Geritol
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MicMac wrote:
Funkmaster wrote:
Please come out to the demo and let as many people know about it as possible. Please let the city know we want a skatepark and that it should be a quality-made concrete skatepark, not the modular ramps.
I agee. Go and tear that junk apart.
Don't forget that there will be a local experienced skatepark builder after the Franklin pool is finished. A local experienced skatepark builder could help reduce the cost of a concrete park.
I hear the crush of folks lining up because Jim has MicMac Paddy Whacks blessing. Does anyone care that Poindexter agrees with Jim. I don't.
Sounds like Poindexter is getting a cut from a certain builder he is constantly pushing. Good ol' republican boy I'm sure. Crony. |
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Posted: Jun 09, 2006 - 04:41 AM
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Snake
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ElvisWilson wrote:
I hear the crush of folks lining up... I don't.
Sorry Jim. I'll back off. I don't want Elvis messing up your deal.
Feel free to send me a private message if there is anything I can do for you in the background.
I might be able to make a charitable contribution with all this skatepark contractor promotion money I'm raking in. |
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Posted: Jun 09, 2006 - 05:00 AM
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Snake
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| Now MicMac, THAT was funny! (sorry Elvis, it was) |
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Posted: Jun 11, 2006 - 03:58 PM
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Team Geritol
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Just a reminder for anybody who can make the demo in Spring Hill tonight. It's a chance to ride some ramps, and let the city know that we would really have the concrete park that is already designed and have $12,000 + invested in.
Please let them know WE WANT THE BEST, WE WANT THE CONCRETE PARK WE ALREADY STARTED.
The bigger the turn out, the better the chance we will get our voices heard.
The Spring Hill Parks and Recreation Department And American Ramp Company Invite all skateboarders, inline skaters and BMX riders to take part in a Skate Park Demo.
On Sunday June 11 American Ramp Company will set up a demonstration Skate Park
for you to ride on free of charge. Come show off your skills and check out the
professional line of skate ramps and equipment that American Ramp Company has
to offer.
When: Sunday June 11th
Where: Spring Hill UAW Local 1853 Parking Lot (Behind FoodLion)
Time: 6:00PM - 8:00PM
Rules: All riders are required to wear a helmet and all other safety equipment
is advised. You must bring your own skateboard, bike, skates and helmet (they
will not be provided at the event). Also all riders must sign both Waiver and
Release Forms. Riders under 18 years of age must have the forms signed by your
parent or legal guardian. The forms can be downloaded below.
City of Spring Hill Waiver and Release American Ramp Company Waiver and
Release
Come join the fun and be sure to tell all your friends for an evening of
excitement!
For more information please call the Parks and Recreation Department at 931-487-
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springhillsk8r
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Post subject: Skate Park Demo
Posted: Jun 13, 2006 - 10:02 PM
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Grom
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| The demo was slammin. That equipment was not too bad either. I hope the city hurrys up and does something even if it is ARC equipment. Lets face it guys, something is better than nothing. |
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Funkmaster
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Posted: Jun 14, 2006 - 12:06 AM
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Team Geritol
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As far as modular ramps go, those were not very good. I've ridden much better. At least for a demo, I would assume they would show something a bit better.
All of the riders I spoke with at the demo said they would definitely prefer the concrete park. Granted, I didn't talk with them all, but I did talk with the majority. I couldn't find anybody who said they would prefer the modular ramps over concrete.
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Lets face it guys, something is better than nothing.
Not in my opinion. By going with the ramps, that means there is really no hope in getting a decent park. Once the money is spent, the city will most likely not spend more money on another park later. I'd rather hold off and have fundraisers if that's what it takes to insure the best long term solution.
Public, modular ramp parks satisfy a short term need. They make the city feel like they gave the users what they wanted, but all they do is discourage users in the long run. They are a poor consolation.
Spring Hill should follow Nashville's and Franklin's example and go for a concrete park as we have designed and spent $12,000 on already. It is a realistic possiblity to see it through. |
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Post subject: spring hill demo
Posted: Jun 14, 2006 - 01:51 PM
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JIM...I have several close up shots of rather big safety issues found only in ARC modular ramps (razor sharp edges would be number one,but there were several others)My biggest concern was finding rusty,sharp edges all over the metal...as if skating weren't already full of inherent danger...now do it...OVER SHARKS !
Ironically,it is their best product,the 7 guage steel that has the most dangerous flaws in design and structure..the other two types of skatelite ramps were a better design.
I took a straw poll myself.One veteran street skater said he would prefer modular,a few were indifferent,but the majority want concrete. Period.
Safety issues set aside,there was nothing to really do much on....the one transitioned wall had that pressed coping,and one street skating vet I know from CWC and 6th pointed out that it is waaay too slippery,and the quarter pipe,never reaching anywhere close to vert wasn't giving him any resisitance,thus coping tricks were impossible.
I did chat with the guys from ARC and they were really friendly,however not too informative. In their display they had pictures of concrete bowls adjacent to their equipment (computer generated images) I asked if they had any experience in concrete to which they evasively answered "Uh....well if you want a concrete bowl we can find a subcontractor to make you one"
If you'd like these pictures e-mail me.The ones that concerned me the most were at the end of launch ramps. I 'took one for the team' and ran my finger along the edge of the razor and photographed it up close (ouch) it is clear that the cuts and weals on my fingers are from the edges of those ramps.
I doubt the city of Spring Hill would be too interested in a product that could potentially harm so many kids
LMK and I can get you out my pix.
-piggy aka Marc |
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Posted: Jun 14, 2006 - 05:05 PM
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Snake
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Mark.
Post those pics in this thread please |
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